Former U.S. Senator Jon Kyl (R) welcomes the “Mean” into his home in Phoenix, Arizona for a wide-ranging conversation about the problems and challenges in American democracy. The Senator and Michael exchange perspectives on campaign finance reform, the length of U.S. House terms, and the critical issue of long-term fiscal solvency in our country.

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